因為儀錶板亮了三顆燈
有去之前保養的外廠看過,是朋友介紹的技師那邊檢查,他說可能是傳感器髒掉之類的
所以有幫清理過,當下燈有滅掉,但是開回家隔天又亮了

前陣子去另一間沒去過的外廠,有插電腦檢查
說是ABS總成電腦?掛掉...因為主要開的人不是我,對於一些名稱可能不熟悉
說原廠換很貴,如果拿大陸新的要4萬多,修理也不一定可以修好,所以建議換新
但是這價格好高

現在不知道怎辦?還是我回原廠再檢查一次(已經過保好幾年)
或是再找個外廠再做一次確認到底是不是ABS總成壞掉

希望大家能給我個建議 謝謝
感覺為了這台車已經噴了好多摳摳

補充 高雄有推薦的店家嗎?謝謝
Yeti 的ABS總成掛掉...價格很高嗎?
VAG車系亮這幾個燈「多半」是其中一輪的abs 感應器掛掉
我的經驗是就算清了也沒啥鳥用,多半還是會亮燈

其本上要掛到abs總成的機率也不是沒有,除非運氣特差
跑別間外廠插電腦再看看,請店家給你看故障碼確認
其本上都是插VCDS就看得到哪一輪掛掉,中文的沒道理看不懂
Fela
那時候沒給看故障碼,再找一間測看看
Fela
換一家插電腦後有給看資訊,的確紅字顯示ABS電腦故障,輪速感知反而沒有,店家解釋若是感知器壞了會顯示壞哪輪...
有先清過接頭嗎?
Fela
好像沒
可以再去給別間外廠檢測看看,通常都是壞輪速比較多,如果真的壞ABS電腦;

我在網路有店家好像可以修ABS電腦板,但不保證能修好.

如果覺得費用太高可以去找殺肉的,再請店家幫你安裝,不過風險也是有的.

以上給您做參考.
Fela
找二手殺肉也不保證可以用多久,只是疑惑還沒10年車會壞電腦是運氣差嗎XD
123507165
那個時間點的車我確實看過不少壞ABS電腦的,有一派是說輪速拖太久不換,長時間下來就會壞電腦,也有人是一過保就壞電腦,無論是修還是殺肉,耐用跟使用時間都無法保證.
ABS電腦...
這條無論哪間車廠都貴,你要有心理準備
不用費心在底下回覆我,我不回頭看文的,打我啊笨蛋(  ̄ 3 ̄)y▂ξ
Fela
我想也是QQ
有用電腦(如VCDS)檢測
如確定不是商家隱瞞
說是ABS電腦壞就應該是電腦壞
因為最常見的ABS(輪速)感應器壞應該很好判斷
我記得故障燈有點小差異(多個手煞車燈?)

原廠以前我記得報價超過10萬
用對岸的新品以前至少3萬多
如果不在原廠換
麻煩的是要配對電腦
不是每個民間商家都能做或願意做

老車要回原廠修超過10萬應該很難忍受
在民間廠修我覺得現在報價4萬算不意外
但是當然很貴
要不要修只能自己考量
Fela
嗯 會再找一間外廠再測一次 謝謝
我換過,北部某協外廠,7W搞定
如果開紅火是緊急性的連續叮叮叮聲那就是ABS電腦掛
噹一聲亮3個燈幾乎是ABS sensor掛
Fela
我後來有再別的討論版問這問題,有人提供引擎發動後車開動出去有逼三聲亮燈...幾乎就是ABS電腦掛,好幾個都這樣說XD我的車的確是有三聲,真的是電腦掛了
jason_jai
如果嫌太貴可以找對面賣家給他車身碼,也夠撐個6,7年也就夠了,重點是便宜,話說原廠件也實在不怎麼樣,以我經驗也不過如此,不過這車真的好開,天人交戰中,哈哈
2023年2月中部外廠修過

外廠說可以試看看修電腦 但ABS電腦這東西要修好要看運氣
不然就是得換新

結論是有修好 保固一年 連工帶料花了2W2
ABS電腦掛了,上坡起步輔助會失效....ABS sensor我記得不會.
Fela wrote:
因為儀錶板亮了三顆燈...(恕刪)


我的 2017 Golf R, 在 2023/7 ABS 壞掉的異常碼也有好幾種:




Address 01: Engine (J623-CJXC) Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 F HW: 06K 907 425 B
Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI H13 0002
Revision: --H13--- CVN: 78A682FB
Coding: 091D00122426050B3004
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259F 001004
ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259F_VW37.rod
VCID: 313F169AA1A242A2B05-8064
VINID: 9E69EAAAA465A989C118324618BA419CA0

3 Faults Found:
17178 - Implausible Data Received from ESP Control Module
U0416 00 [039] - -
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:08

Engine RPM: 891.75 /min
Normed load value: 23.5 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 56 蚓
Intake air temperature: 36 蚓
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.539 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No
Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No
Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No

21320 - Implausible Data Received from ABS Control Module
U0415 00 [039] - -
[Invalid Data Received FromAnti-Lock Brake System Control Module]
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:08

Engine RPM: 893.75 /min
Normed load value: 23.1 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 56 蚓
Intake air temperature: 36 蚓
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.500 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine: operating status: IS
High-pressure system: status: VCV_OPEN
TEMP_CAT_UP_1_SAE: 394.8 蚓
High-pressure system: status: VCV_OPEN
T_ES: 0 min
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Set: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Resume: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Status: OK
Cruise control switch actuation-Accelerate: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-DELAY: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Cancel: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch hardware: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Coding: plausible
Cruise control switch actuation-Limit function: not selected
Cruise control switch actuation-Limit button: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch CAN: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Large increment: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Control component verified: Yes

23128 - Implausible Data Received from ABS Control Module
U0415 00 [039] - -
[Invalid Data Received FromAnti-Lock Brake System Control Module]
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:08

Engine RPM: 893.75 /min
Normed load value: 23.1 %
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 56 蚓
Intake air temperature: 36 蚓
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.519 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine: operating status: IS
High-pressure system: status: VCV_OPEN
TEMP_CAT_UP_1_SAE: 394.8 蚓
High-pressure system: status: VCV_OPEN
T_ES: 0 min
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Set: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Resume: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Status: OK
Cruise control switch actuation-Accelerate: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-DELAY: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Cancel: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch hardware: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Coding: plausible
Cruise control switch actuation-Limit function: not selected
Cruise control switch actuation-Limit button: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Main switch CAN: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Large increment: Not operated
Cruise control switch actuation-Control component verified: Yes

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 014 Q HW: 02E 927 770 AS
Component: DQ250-6A MQB H54 5005
Revision: 06454104 Serial number: TFK01611152057 CVN: 0000BE17
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 2615F5C6986C151A557-8072

4 Faults Found:
21159 - Gear R
P072B 00 [002] - Not Selectable
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21170 - Transmission Output Speed Sensor (G195)
P0722 00 [066] - No Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21171 - Transmission Output Speed Sensor 2 (G196)
P1793 00 [066] - No Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

10657 - RPM Signal from ECU
P0726 00 [002] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CG HW: 5Q0 614 517 AG
Component: ESC H62 0643
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 63426000002503
Coding: 01FA6BA15426216F4780070640C96980D62A84E2E0029677004250F8C208430000000012121212B835351919323200
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036_VW37.rod
VCID: 78A9EBBE025853EA37B-802C

3 Faults Found:
0047 - Front Left Wheel Speed Sensor
C101A 29 [137] - Signal Implausible
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:08

16417 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring
C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:18

32993 - Control Module for Electric Parking Brake
C10E2 F0 [009] - RPM Sensor Implausble Signal
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 56808 km
Date: 2023.07.16
Time: 09:02:09
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其中最關鍵的是這部分:Address 03: ABS Brakes, 可以看到那一輪 sensor 壞掉,我到淘寶買最貴的 ABS sensor 來換,一個大約300多,因為雖然最貴,我還是覺得便宜,為了省麻煩,我買了4輪份,目前一輪壞了,其中一輪我提早換,還2輪還沒換,我打算壞了再換就好:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=609&t=6818443
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